Saturday, March 18, 2006

The glass is fully empty

Hoo!

I can't seem to upload pictures today, so you'll have to be satisfied with a picless philosophy rant.

I saw some great theatre last night at TIPA, which I'd somehow managed to avoid visiting until then despite the fact that I had to walk past it every day on the way to Tushita, and that I live near it on TIPA Road. I'm really glad I finally went though - lots of wonderful singing and dancing, and some skits which looked funny, although I couldn't really tell, since they were in Tibetan. One of my favourite performances was the singing of the Tibetan national anthem, which is actually a beautiful song, unlike most anthems.

The main thing I've been doing since my course ended though has been attending the Dalai Lama's annual post-Losar Monlam teachings every day in the courtyard of the Tsuglagkhang temple. They're in Tibetan, but there's a simultaneous English translation via FM broadcast. You can also watch and/or listen to any of these teachings online by clicking here. The most surprising thing about them, especially for Western audiences, is how heavily philosophical they are. You see a sea of Tibetan peasants silently praying or counting strings of mala beads, listening raptly to their highest religious leader talk about how "all composite things are produced from causes," and that "everything comes into being in dependence on other things," (thus negating the idea of inherent existence for the self or for objects). Wow.

The main texts that he is using are the Compendium of Precepts, and A Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life, both by Shantideva, an 8th-century Buddhist saint and scholar. I've already read the Guide (as translated by Stephen Batchelor), because it was the textbook for my Tushita course, and I follow along in it at the teachings. It's a beautiful poem/philosophical treatise/practical guide to life. Well, it's beautiful and practical for Buddhists or for those sympathetic to the Buddhist mindset - a strong current of disgust with the body and all things worldly runs through it, which probably turns off a lot of people. Human bodies are described variously as "...walking corpses/Which are moved around by a few (impulses)," "...cages of bones tied together with muscles/Plastered over with the mud of flesh," and, very simply, as "bags of filth." This disgust is rooted in the belief that the human realm, along with the other realms of Samsara (or cyclic existence), are basically places of illusion and suffering which we must overcome to realize Nirvana, "the state beyond sorrow." To become attached to objects such as bodies is to become attached to Samsara, and to create further suffering. Ironically though, the ideal in Mahayana Buddhism (of which Tibetan Buddhism is a branch) is not to realize Nirvana, but to become a Bodhisattva, a being who forsakes full Buddhahood and remains in cyclic existence in order to help others attain Nirvana. One of the final passages of the Guide reads: "For as long as space endures/And for as long as living beings remain/Until then may I, too, abide/To dispel the misery of the world."

I find it very difficult to integrate this ideal of the Bodhisattva with another central aspect of Buddhism, the belief in "emptiness." As opposed to Hinduism, which posits a permanent, all-pervasive Self as the fundamental reality, Buddhism denies the inherent (permanent, independent, and partless) existence of the self and of everything. Given this idea, I'm confused as to the point of compassion and the Bodhisattva's way of life in general - why should we develop compassion for beings who do not truly exist, and thus do not truly suffer? The Guide answers as follows:

Although sentient beings do not truly exist, deceptively one should develop compassion for those imputed (as sentient beings) by the confused mind which has promised to practice the (Bodhisattva) way of life in order to lead them to the goal of liberation... Although ultimately it is true (that there are no truly existent sentient beings, compassion or results), deceptively, from the point of view of a mind confused about phenomena, we accept the existence of merely apparent results arising from merely apparent compassion developed towards merely apparent sentient beings... In order to completely pacify suffering one need not and cannot reject compassion. Therefore one should not reject this merely apparent confusion about the results. However, the confusion about the self should be rejected because it increases such things as self-importance, which are causes for suffering.

Yeah... I still don't get it. If suffering doesn't truly exist, then why should we attempt to eliminate it? In fact, I don't see the point in attaining even our own "liberation," since "...in their being (empty of true existence), there is no difference between the state beyond sorrow - Nirvana - and the state not beyond sorrow - cyclic existence." And even if there were a difference, there would seemingly still be no point in even securing liberation for oneself, since one does not have a self. Hmm...

By the way: as per the question that I was trying to use Hinduism to answer, Buddhism completely avoids the whole can of worms. Cyclic existence has been occurring since "beginningless time;" whether or not there was a Creator, and if so, whatever his reasons for creating were, is immaterial, as the answer will not help us to achieve enlightenment.

So there you have it.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

wow......Dan you are leaving us all in your spritual wake.

Andy

Anonymous said...

Perhaps the answer is that there is no emptiness, there is no fulness, no misery, no suffering, no non-suffering; you're setting up a dichtomy or system of dichtomies which you then stumble over...

- Alan

Anonymous said...

you also say that "since one does not have a self." - but who is the one? you're back with the upanishads here i think. buddhism doesn't deny appearance btw., appearance is what one dwells within, in suffering. have you read nagarjuna? - alan

Winter said...

So is there any attempt to accommodate modern comological findings? Last week studies of the notion of the inflationary universe claimed "in the moments after the big bang, growing from the size of a marble to a volume larger than all of observable space in less than a trillion-trillionth of a second." (from the LA Times and many other sources). Cycles? How about multiverses? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse)

Dan said...

Andy - Cool! I hope you brought your water skis! (Spirit skis?) ;)

Alan - I haven't read Nagarjuna yet... Buddhism doesn't deny appearance - but what is the point of eliminating the mere appearance of suffering? Maybe you're right that I've created a dichotomy, but then Buddhism seems to set one up for itself when it talks about things like non-existence, which implies existence... But if you're right and there's no suffering or non-suffering, then again, why have as your aim the elimination of suffering?

And of course there is no "one." Maybe I could have said "since the self does not exist?"

Winter - Buddhism can accomodate all modern cosmological findings with a little creative interpretation :) There would have to have been somewhere for sentient beings to live before the Big Bang if cyclic existence has been occurring since "beginningless time." Maybe an oscillatory (Big Bounce) universe could account for this? Perhaps some version of the multiverse could also describe all of the different realms in Buddhism (the hells, god realms, formless realms, etc.)

Anonymous said...

You say Buddhism doesn't deny appearance - but what is the point of eliminating the mere appearance of suffering?

because the appearance of suffering is still suffering, humans are caught like red dust/hungry ghosts.

Maybe you're right that I've created a dichotomy, but then Buddhism seems to set one up for itself when it talks about things like non-existence, which implies existence...

I think this is your dichotomy, you're relaying aristotelian logic where I don't think it fits. There are buddhist logics, but the 'read' differently (Dover has published good accounts). In any case, I don't think existence impies or non-exisence implies; it's not implication, it's ontology undermining epistemology, and it's within epistemology that logic resides.

I'm not an expert in any of this, but it simply doesn't seem contradictory to me -

But if you're right and there's no suffering or non-suffering, then again, why have as your aim the elimination of suffering?

Because sentient beings still feel suffering -

I think you might also re: winter be taking Buddhism literally - just as Judaism has pretty much dispensed with angels, heaven, and hell, so hells aren't really needed in Buddhism - as far as I recollect for example, they play little or no role in Zen. You might even throw out reincarnation, a whole apparatus; while you can 'fit' Buddhism one way or another into cosmology, it's awkward, and I think useless, a kind of scholastic exercise -

Btw the reason Buddhist metaphysics are so complex is precisely because they are dealing with the 'kwak' of Zen in other ways, trying to circumvent language through language which is always already imprecise, in spite of occidental rationalism, Aristotle, etc.

Sorry, just waking up. probably wrong

Alan

Dan said...

Alan - Personally I tend to agree with you about throwing out reincarnation, karma, etc., or at least radically reinterpreting them - the translator of the version of the Guide that I read, Stephen Batchelor, who was a monk for a number of years, wrote a book called Buddhism without Beliefs that I'm very interested in reading, which talks about just that. This isn't a widely held view though. I'm not sure about other traditions, but in Tibetan Buddhism such things are still very much a part of the religion.

Don't know what to say about your other points... If my logic is inappropriate, then I can't really argue. I'll have to study up on Buddhist logic before I can reply...

Dan said...

The Dalai Lama talked about compassion and emptiness today... He said that at the unanalyzed level, suffering exists, and should be eliminated, even though ultimately, it doesn't exist.

So I guess it all depends on what level you're at - the Bodhisattva is not fully enlightened, and so will try to eliminate suffering, whereas a fully realized Buddha will just enter Nirvana... Since we aim to become a Bodhisattva or a Buddha while we are still in a confused state of mind, the best goal we can think of at that level is to eliminate suffering (the path of the Bodhisattva).

I'm still a bit confused though I have to admit - I guess I still have a little while to go before enlightenment. Some knowledge of Buddhist logic might help too..

Anonymous said...

Hi - I wrote you back a long reply and it never made it.

I said basically, where you have "The Dalai Lama talked about compassion and emptiness today... He said that at the unanalyzed level, suffering exists, and should be eliminated, even though ultimately, it doesn't exist." - of course it should be eliminated - it hurts. I also mentioned the translation of the Vimalakirti Sutra by Robert Thurman, one of my favorites, as well as any of the translations from the Chinese by Red Pines - including is translation of Han Shen (Cold Mountain), and the Tao te Ching. He includes the Chinese in both & you can look up the characters if needs be. Also suggested that Buddhist logic doesn't help, that there should be a way for you to cut through the contradictions, which reside of course only in language.

Also said I think that my friends Mike Metz and Nancy Haynes have worked w/Tibetan translation and the Dalai Lama, Nancy meditates and Mike prefers the approach through reading - which I do as well, can't ever sit still -

Hope this makes sense I'll try and actually get this on the blog!

- Alan